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	<title>Comments on: My recipe for ZFS at home</title>
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	<description>&#34;Sometimes I don&#039;t know why I even fucking try&#34;</description>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://michaelshadle.com/2009/09/28/my-recipe-for-zfs-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-14418</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t care about hot-swap capability. I cared about 5:3&#039;s, of which I believe this was the cheapest one I could find with a decent amount of people who have actually used it and it isn&#039;t some totally funky unit only used by a few people in Japan or something. It also had a fan, I think some don&#039;t. I thought I could swap the fans out but a quick attempt did not yield results and I&#039;ve been too lazy to try again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn't care about hot-swap capability. I cared about 5:3's, of which I believe this was the cheapest one I could find with a decent amount of people who have actually used it and it isn't some totally funky unit only used by a few people in Japan or something. It also had a fan, I think some don't. I thought I could swap the fans out but a quick attempt did not yield results and I've been too lazy to try again.</p>
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		<title>By: robert k</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 09:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you don&#039;t need hot-swap capability, there are a number of less expensive ways of mounting groups of 3.5&quot; drives in 5.25&quot; bays (eg $10 4:1 http://www.svc.com/scy-hdsx4.html). Lian-Li also makes a ~$25 4:1, part# EX-34NB.

alternatively, the $320 case+2x$120 5:3backplane = $560; which is about the low end of prices for a rackmount case that includes the backplane and hot swap trays.

A used system pull Dell PERC 5/i or 6/i (a rebranded LSI product) might be sourced inexpensively (fyi, the PERC5 does not support SATA NCQ). There are RAID and NON-RAID PERC adapter cards; usually the non-raid versions sell quite inexpensively. 

if someone is looking for an alternate means of getting there; the latest version of FreeNAS supports ZFS (yay!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you don't need hot-swap capability, there are a number of less expensive ways of mounting groups of 3.5" drives in 5.25" bays (eg $10 4:1 <a href="http://www.svc.com/scy-hdsx4.html)" rel="nofollow">http://www.svc.com/scy-hdsx4.html)</a>. Lian-Li also makes a ~$25 4:1, part# EX-34NB.</p>
<p>alternatively, the $320 case+2x$120 5:3backplane = $560; which is about the low end of prices for a rackmount case that includes the backplane and hot swap trays.</p>
<p>A used system pull Dell PERC 5/i or 6/i (a rebranded LSI product) might be sourced inexpensively (fyi, the PERC5 does not support SATA NCQ). There are RAID and NON-RAID PERC adapter cards; usually the non-raid versions sell quite inexpensively. </p>
<p>if someone is looking for an alternate means of getting there; the latest version of FreeNAS supports ZFS (yay!)</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, I&#039;d check it out idle and under load. Would be interesting to see. I&#039;d probably hook that up to all kinds of gadgets. Even lamps.

Also, you might not need this recipe for FreeBSD. Especially if SATA Port Multipler support is an option. Then all you&#039;d need is some SATA PMP capable cards and you could run one cable to a 5 drive chassis which is pretty quiet and continuously add on top of that. That&#039;s what my original goal was. But OpenSolaris *just* started adding support in for that. I think FreeBSD is ahead of them there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, I'd check it out idle and under load. Would be interesting to see. I'd probably hook that up to all kinds of gadgets. Even lamps.</p>
<p>Also, you might not need this recipe for FreeBSD. Especially if SATA Port Multipler support is an option. Then all you'd need is some SATA PMP capable cards and you could run one cable to a 5 drive chassis which is pretty quiet and continuously add on top of that. That's what my original goal was. But OpenSolaris *just* started adding support in for that. I think FreeBSD is ahead of them there.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt G</title>
		<link>http://michaelshadle.com/2009/09/28/my-recipe-for-zfs-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-14346</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how much usable space do you end up with?
If I loan you a Kill-o-watt, can you tell us how much the power bill is for this monster?

Sounds awesome!

(PS: I am hoping that ZFS is usable in FreeBSD 8.0 and I might try this rig).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how much usable space do you end up with?<br />
If I loan you a Kill-o-watt, can you tell us how much the power bill is for this monster?</p>
<p>Sounds awesome!</p>
<p>(PS: I am hoping that ZFS is usable in FreeBSD 8.0 and I might try this rig).</p>
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